Talk:Herbalife Nutrition

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The company seems to be using both the Herbalife Logo and the Herbalife Nutrition Logo, however it seems to be using the Herbalife Nutrition logo as most public-facing web properties, but it is using the Herbalife Logo on official documents. We'll keep an eye on it. Jose Cervantes (talk) 23:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Controversies[edit]

The bulk of this article is about two controversies: about 10% on liver problems, and 25% about the its alleged "pyramid" business model. Is there a way to outline the pros and cons of these?

My suggestion would be to say that:

  1. Critics charged that certain Herbalife products [name them, please!] caused liver problems [specifially, what?]
    • These claims were evaluated by A, B, and C with the following conclusions
  2. Several sources [be specific!] complained about the company's emphasis on distributors recruiting "downlines", charging Herbalife with running a pyramid scheme.
    • The company's response was / has been ...
    • Government agencies in the USA have ruled / negotiated ...

Is this a good plan? --Uncle Ed (talk) 15:05, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Liver disease[edit]

I am unable to find any information on the three named 'toxic ingredients': "Herbalife was accused of selling products containing toxic ingredients such as Qua-qua, Kompri, and Kraska." Are these abbreviated plant names? I suggest that this sentence should be removed or rewritten.Jimjamjak (talk) 11:24, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Zezen (talk) 05:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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New lawsuit[edit]

Herbalife has been hit with a class-action lawsuit in Florida [1] [2] [3] [4]. Does that warrant inclusion in the "Pyramid scheme allegations" section? I know class-action suits are a dime a dozen, but given Herbalife's track record, to this seems to be much more notable than your garden variety lawsuit. Kerdooskis (talk) 18:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

POV[edit]

Pre-tag found number of unreliable blog posts to substantiate POV content. Too much to tackle alone, so opening discussion board GreerPedal7 (talk) 21:11, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Unsure when this was removed but no discussion here thanks.... GreerPedal7 (talk) 01:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Where are the archives?[edit]

Mizabot is no longer maintained. Did the archives get lost, or is there a url somewhere where they can be recovered? --Nbauman (talk) 00:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Cancer Society exec resigns over Herbalife partnership[edit]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/health/american-cancer-society-brawley-resigns.html
Cancer Society Executive Resigns Amid Upset Over Corporate Partnerships
By Sheila Kaplan
New York Times
Nov. 5, 2018
The official, Dr. Otis W. Brawley, an executive vice president and chief medical officer, resigned his post late last week after 11 years at the society. His departure was largely attributed to his dismay over some commercial partnerships, including with Herbalife International, the controversial supplements company, people close to him said.
--Nbauman (talk) 00:42, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

New hepatitis case in India[edit]

No time to update it properly in WP, so quick second hand info and the name of the RS here:

https://behindmlm.com/companies/herbalife/herbalife-products-tied-to-acute-liver-failure-in-india/

for my WP colleagues. Zezen (talk) 05:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, nothing we can use here, IMO. Several problems...
The first one is easy. The link is to a blog. However, it refers to a journal article, which is linked.
The article, however, is a primary source, per WP:MEDRS. Basically, it is a single study with a hodge-podge of other reports cited. Typically, we're looking for a metanalysis of studies where authors find published articles within given parameters, assess the quality of the studies, weight the data from the various studies to reach a conclusion. Here the authors have one unique case report and various articles on multiple products.
Next is the journal itself. It is open-access, which is always worrisome. IMO, concerns about the reliability of open access journals is best handled based on impact scores. In the present case, Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hepatology has a score of 0.971. While it is for a specialized field, that's still quite low.
Other opinions? - SummerPhDv2.0 13:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)